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Post by katya on Nov 26, 2012 18:15:22 GMT -8
so I'm on a battlestar galactica kick, and I'm dying to rp something science fiction. maybe animanga's just not the right place for that since sci-fi trends gundams for the genre, but I would really really dig a good ol' fashioned mankind vs AIs (or aliens!) plot or just space cowboys painting systems red. give me skynet or serenity, not too picky there, just as long as I've got my final frontier.
yeah, so anybody know of any animanga space opera sites? pretty sure im shit out of luck but hey cant hurt to ask
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Post by Pool Boy on Nov 26, 2012 19:12:45 GMT -8
sci-fi and animanga don't come together often :c
BUTBUT i know an amazing original mankind v. aliens site with a really chill community. it's called retrograde. it's super in-depth, and the community is really nice, and its been around for a while. you know its chill when the cbox can talk politics, and i actually learned something about the government of denmark... the button has a good name on the rl rp resource sites, and i almost got guru to join with me but ended up ditching my app attempt for other things. ....i would join with you if our characters had a kick ass plot together, but i'm busy ;w; winter break i can do it? If you like that place that is. They have some really good canon plots.
...i'm surprised that i've never seen a cowboy bebop animanga rp because i hear it's a brilliant show.
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Post by katya on Nov 27, 2012 15:20:23 GMT -8
yeah, scifi seems to be a pretty purely RL thing, idek why.
im still trying to figure out how danes count let alone how their government works lol yeah I know you're busy now, but yeah we'll see for the holidays? I still prefer the animanga crowd over RL especially when it comes to non-fandom stuff (I know this'll sound ridiculous, but it is actually less dramariffic over here), but I can't say I expect to ever see space opera in animanga unless I make it myself. but yeah when it's winter break, we should try nagging guru again. we should play homicidal AIs.
I've seen a few animanga sci-fi sites, a lot of them that were steampunk or near future rather than space-faring shenanigans. I don't think any of them have lasted long though, but I can't tell if it's the genre that's the problem or if sites just don't last long.
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Post by Pool Boy on Nov 27, 2012 16:07:33 GMT -8
I don't think the star wars fandom and the animanga fandom tend to over-lap, which is why people don't do it too much. I mean, in animanga, the only fandoms with robot-people that I know of are Ergo Proxy and Absolute Boyfriend, and half of those are pure, shameless shojo. I just think people imagine animanga faces in school settings, maybe every now and then, an apocoalypse or war setting, but never outer space THOUGH A YEAR AGO I did see a space-colony pokemon rp that I thought was neat! They ran it like a small town rp, though. I think its the genre. You gotta really appreciate science to love a sci-fi setting, and I think most rpers are satisfied appreciating a good romance.
Sky Pirates sort of come close in a fantasy kind of way, but even that genre is more like normal, historical piracy. Nothing like some horror alien hunt, or a real sci-fi setting like.... augh. Dang. My scifi switch is turned on now :c
Yeah, let's just kidnap guru with us and do that. We can have our robots out to murder his character |D
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Post by konya on Nov 27, 2012 17:26:28 GMT -8
Cyberpunk and earthbound sci-fi should really have a larger audience amongst animanga fans x: I still have a near-future sci-fi site chugging along, but there's no space travel because I'm not that interested in that aspect of it all. But imean when you think about things like the Gundam fandom! Tezuka's Metropolis, hell even in things like Gantz and Ghost in the Shell and Evangelion. There is definitely some kind of interest in robots (I know I love the fuck out of robots and cyborgs) and a futuristic setting. If you do make one I can't say I'd join because again not in to space at all but there are probably people out there who are interested?
Keeping a non-fandom RP alive seems to be getting harder and harder though x:
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Post by Pool Boy on Nov 27, 2012 19:33:35 GMT -8
....i completely forgot evangelion. that shit was brill.
I'm... hesitant to really see the Gundam Series as sci-fi. Everything in it feels more magical than anything else, and the plot of the series, well, I'm only thinking of Mobile Suit G Gundam, and it was really more about typical plotty things that could be done in any shounen with super powers. Romance between mechanics and pilots, senseis possessed by shadow gundams, and the masked pilot secretly the protagonist's long lost brother. BUT EVANGELION! They had a lot in that. I've never seen an Evangelion RP either. Just Code Geass for robots.
Considering how special the pilots were in that show, and how few, it would be a really good idea for a private RP, like Tanz's persona shin-dig.
I wish it were easier to keep non-fandom sites going too, man :c I think if one were ever to get one up off the ground these days, it would have to begin with a really motivated core group, maybe about eight people, with a lot of openness to plot with each other and build a story as a group.
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Post by konya on Nov 27, 2012 19:45:43 GMT -8
the thing about sci-fi is that the best ones focus more on the setting. I haven't seen G Gundam but I have seen the more recent Wing/Seed/00 and bits and pieces of Unicorn and lordy lord just taking 00 - it's a very very sci-fi setting. Space elevators and colonies and genetic testing and robots and people-who-maybe-are-or-maybe-aren't-robots ansd alsjdhajsldnasj. Even SEED has the space element and the genetic modification going on. Wing is a very repressed moment of my childhood and all I really remember is Heero blowing himself up. I can't speak for *all* of the Gundam series but I do think it's fair to call the settings, at least, sci-fi x:
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Post by Pool Boy on Nov 27, 2012 19:57:23 GMT -8
Yeah, Sci-fi is all about the setting and its ingenuity. For movies, how much it can blow your mind with special effects (jurassic park, avatar), and for books, having these rich philosophical, rhetorical notes (anything by asimov) dude, i see the matrix on this list, and i want it ;w; I think it just takes so MUCH imagination and is so extravagantly foreign from normal life that it can overwhelm rpers or something. It's hard to play a scientist at work, or a mechanic even just fixing a car, I guess. I really look up to that genre because it takes a lot of both creativity and research.
G Gundam doesn't deserve the scifi title, I can say that, lol. (There's a literal boxing ring surrounding earth like an electrified fence.) It was one of the first, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if the series pulled itself together in the later shows.
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Post by katya on Nov 27, 2012 23:23:34 GMT -8
that space opera at its finest tends to involve Really Deep Thoughts kinda sucks for it ever being a thing for a big, open rp site. I actually can see it working out really well for a private site, but the other thing about sci-fi is that it tends to have a massive cast, and that's hard to mimic with 5-10 people. (actually, it'd probably be okay with 10, but everyone had better be a character ho with 5.) ...I may yet give it a shot one day though, idk.
i think the biggest problem in the end is that without a really tightly knit site plot that's intended to delve into the setting, it ends up just like most genre sites and is just fluff rp without any forward movement. it's like a fantasy rp that's just romantic shenanigans and no magic, or a mutant rp that's just domestic shenanigans and no anti-mutant schism. ofc basic humanity is at the core of what makes any story good (or even excellent!), but it kinda defeats the point of the setting/genre if it's not really a huge factor.
...ngl i know basically nothing about gundam, and given my decrepit age, I should at least know a thing or two about gundam wing. (the sum of my knowledge on gundam wing: midorikawa hikaru voices heero, so he must sound good.)
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Post by konya on Nov 27, 2012 23:47:54 GMT -8
Setting is one of the most important things in sci-fi and if it's built well enough it doesn't really matter what the plots are - that's what the article i linked to up there was all about. I actually don't think you need a 'tight knit' group to make sci-fi work, and a single directive plot has been the death of many sites in the past. If you build the world well enough, write all the documentation and gear your members towards interacting with the setting rather than having it as a background, it shouldn't really matter what kind of plots are going on because they'll be dependent on the world they exist in. Imean if I was going to join a sci-fi site I would take advantage of the setting? The thing that makes sci-fi, and especially your star wars-esque space operas is the huge scale of the world and the sandbox feel to it all.
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Post by katya on Nov 27, 2012 23:55:42 GMT -8
yeah but it's the sandbox part that's the thing that's tough, which is why I think tightly knit is the way to go, because otherwise I always feel like some people aren't involved--obviously without everyone/most people involved and actively stuffing the site full of creativity and beautiful shit, it's hard to achieve the level of epic that does define the genre. I don't necessarily mean an entirely admin-driven plot (although when it's not the admin from hell [lol but when is it not?] it works like a charm), because that's lame, but besides for a plot that deeply encourages interaction, how else does a staff team encourage setting interaction? idk it might just be me because I'm neither into fluff nor smut, and I'm pretty butthurt that a lot of sites with awesome plots and/or settings tend to end up meandering around with characters doing nothing they can't do in a regular town game, and then the site ending up dead, bc gee that's an old tune ain't it just. still drunk, sorry
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Post by MASTERMIND NAEGI on Nov 28, 2012 0:00:02 GMT -8
I'm no sci-fi expert, but just my two cents here: I personally believe that in roleplay the most important factor is actually the setting. You can go with a sandbox plot if your world is rich and detailed enough for people to play around with. As roleplay is usually non-linear with more than four people, anything could happen at the same time and thus structure is less important compared to a book. Most of the more successful RPs out there - and I'm talking in general, not just in forum RPs - are the ones with rich settings and detailed information.
I also found that the easiest rps to make are from series with ensemble casts, because you have a wide selection of types of people who live in that setting to have a feel on how people live in there.
And I don't think you need to be completely accurate at sci-fi...? I mean look at Doctor Who, it's one of the most brilliant and successful sci-fi shows out there and it explains time travel as "timey wimey".
PS Oh I got ninja'd.
I think Paddy wasn't going along the lines of 100% sandbox...? I mean maybe it's something like Skyrim: it's a sandbox RP, but there are quests to give you something to do and a story to follow.
sorry I keep giving fantasy examples what is my specialty
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Post by katya on Nov 28, 2012 0:04:38 GMT -8
sorry I keep giving fantasy examples what is my specialtyfantasy is bomb bro i would kill for a good fantasy site too, classic tho with flouncey gay elves and shit
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Post by MASTERMIND NAEGI on Nov 28, 2012 0:08:23 GMT -8
sorry I keep giving fantasy examples what is my specialtyfantasy is bomb bro i would kill for a good fantasy site too, classic tho with flouncey gay elves and shit soon.it's going to have 10% plot with a series that has a shitton of background setting information though, i hope you're okay with it
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Post by konya on Nov 28, 2012 0:11:37 GMT -8
I think Paddy wasn't going along the lines of 100% sandbox...? I mean maybe it's something like Skyrim: it's a sandbox RP, but there are quests to give you something to do and a story to follow. Basically this! Imean if I joined a star wars site (SORRY IT'S THE ONLY ONE I KNOW I DON'T LIKE SPACE TRAVEL) i'd be all "hot damn i'm going to be a sexy alien bounty hunter chick" because that's something that would be defined by the setting. And then I'd look for things to do as a sexy alien bounty hunter chick. I'd maybe try and plot some stuff up with other sexy alien bounty hunters and I'd look around the boards etc for places where people like that would get together. I'd maybe expect a few bounties to go after too, or things could be worked out with other criminal-esque characters and woah look there I already have like five potential plots (bounty hunter friends/lovers/ex-lovers, marks, places and people of significance in those places) and that's something purely player-created. What wouldn't be player created would be the setting where my sexy alien bounty hunter can make these plots. Are there groups for bounty hunters? Is there a system for marks? Where are the best places for them to hang out? etc etc. All the tiny detailed variables are what comes from the setting and that's the fun part! Like HRH Prince Charles said in the program I watched today: The key is in the details c: Make a detailed enough setting and people can get lost in it for hours. Continuing off the Skyrim thing Novas just said, I just spent three hours playing Twilight Princess ignoring the main plot, and I'm glad the game has built in mechanics to let me do that. One of the best things about Majora's Mask (of the same seires) is that it's almost entirely made of side-quests... and I have never felt more involved with a game, its world or its characters.
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