[FLANNEL]

Just wanted to know other people's thoughts/experiences when it came to planning plots with other roleplayers.

Have you ever suggested a plot that the other person shot down because they didn't believe it was a good or plausible enough? How'd you handle it?

If you have multiple characters, do you try to think of plots for all of them, or just pick the one you think is best, or what?

Does whether or not a person uses a plot template determine if you'll reply to their page or not? (Basically, do aesthetics matter?)

Have you ever replied to other plot pages, but never bothered to create one of your own? (or vice versa?) And is that inconsiderate, or "bad", or something?

Have you ever outright rejected somebody who wanted to thread with you because you thought they were just an awful writer?

Aaaand, if I think of more questions they'll go here I guess~

[darth vader]

Have you ever suggested a plot that the other person shot down because they didn't believe it was a good or plausible enough? How'd you handle it?

i need help with this from the other side bc i swear to god sometimes people just offer up plots that are solely a vehicle to showcase their char and it's annoying af and idk how to say no and maybe point it out without being rude*


*which i don't mind but i'd like to not be rude all the time

[katya]

Well, if I offer a plot, and the person says no... that's that? No big deal. Most of the time, when I try to make plots and offer threads (not just random let's throw em together and see what happens threads), it's really at the core a gesture. I want someone to know that I think their character is cool, and I want them to feel like they might have a part at the site. Getting turned down's never a big deal to me. It's cool, either move on, or keep trying to come up with cool plot ideas that they might like.

Aesthetics only matter to me for easy reading. No template? Fine. Bad template? Not so fine. Good template? That's pretty!

I make two kinds of characters, basically. Some of them I make for the site, like to just run around and interact with anyone, and go where the plots take me. Others, I want to focus on something or other, typically for a specific request. The latter sort, I rarely make plot pages for. The former, I always make plot pages for. I don't mind it if people don't make plot pages (I just PM them to see if they're interested in threading), but I do mind people that complain about having no plots when they don't have plot pages--because... duh?

And wow that's a lotta questions. I'll get around to the rest later maybe.

[Deleted]

Okay, this is kind of a tangent, but I absolutely hate it when people are like " i don't know why they'd know each other, let alone meet, but i think your character would think --- about my character so they should be friends/enemies/etc " and I'm like. well. how do I respond. Because my character doesn't care/doesn't have any initiative/probably won't want to meet your character X and therefore why did you even post on my plotter.

and i hate it when people are like " i have no idea what they'd mean to each other but here's my character's history in tl;dr " - which is basically what tsun said. if i was more interested in plotting with you, i would've read your profile anyways

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[konya]

I was once on a site where everyone replied to my plot page straight away which was GREAT! ... except that they were all variants of "I think they would know each other". The real great one was "I know you have a whole paragraph about your characters mental state in terms of his sexuality, I just wanted to say my character is also gay but he has a boyfriend". That was it. "They should be friends because they're both gay". I'm still so freaking confused as to why they would even bother to post.

/end rant but I've already forgotten all the OP questions soooo

- Aesthetics doesn't matter to me, if I can read I'll reply
- a post in my plot page never guarantees a plot. I like to actually play with the characters too so I can get a feel for how they interact. A post in one of my plotters is more of a proposal than anything set.
- I WILL say no if I'm not feeling it.
- I don't think it's bad to not make plot pages but reply to others because making plot pages is a pain in the ass.

[GARDEN]

If people like my character and want to plot but can't come up with anything, that's totally fine. Just say so! But I hate hate hate it when people are like "lol so here is a long explanation entirely of my character's background with no actual relevance to yours"

ok thank you this was deep and thoughtful i can see why our characters are going to get along just fine

[gojira]

my plots range from "let's thread" to "/hammers out very fine details over skype", but most of the time they take a life of their own and run somewhere else.

if i have multiple characters? ... if i have multiple characters ... i don't plot all of them with someone. because there's nothing scarier than getting hit in the face by 25 characters and needing to reply to all of them in a plot page reply ... right?

also uh idrc about templates and stuff. as long as it's easy to read, i'm good. and i rarely make plot pages for my characters, too. most of my plotting is done via im or cbox.

[dream eater]

Uh first question. I've actually never really put myself out there and made plots actually (bc I really suck at it, don't plot with me because you're gonna be the one making the plots and me going along), but on the off chance that I do come up with something and I get rejected, I don't really care. Because they probably had a good reason so whatever. If my character/plot doesn't fit, it doesn't fit.

I rarely post in plot pages, btw, so I'm speaking from very minimal experience of it from the off chance that I have posted for them. I do try to think for all of my characters, but when there's literally no chance of meeting/interaction/development, I just push over another character that fits. When you have a wide variety with the only thing connecting them is yourself and your obsession to put them into lesbian relationships, it's a bit hard coming up for plots with all your characters in on plot page.

I don't care about aesthetics. I mean, yeah, pleasing to the eye, but whatever. Content's what matters. The prettiness of the template may catch my eye but even then lol I look at many plot pages at one time so it doesn't matter.

Uh... if it's bad to reply to a plot page and not have one of my own, then I've been doing bad. Basically I'm just really lazy and plot pages take a lot of effort on my part, so I don't bother with them. My policy is plotting on the cbox or on skype, and if people want to plot with me, then they can approach me in a PM or something. I reply to something only if I think that my character would do good and they made a plot page just for plotting, so why not post there as an alternative for a PM?

I've never really rejected anyone before because of their awful writing. I've avoided them best as I can, and most of the time they ignore me. I'm not the best out there so I try my best not to reject in the first place and give them a chance. Usually for the benefit of my own laughter, but I do take plots with my characters really seriously.

Wow that's a lot.

It didn't look like a lot from the quick reply box, so sorry!

[Egao, Egao Everywhere]

my plots rarely get shot down and if they do, i take it hard at first. yesh it's lame but since i've experienced it that's how i reacted. i thought it sucked a lot because the plots that i was shot down were plots that i felt were beneficial to that person and not really mine, so i was like u sure mang i thought it's pretty cool. but i move on. i still try to convince people but i'll never force or mope aboutit.

what are templates

i make plot pages for the formalities. hardly people post in it i forget i even have one.

i never reject plots or threads regardless of writing. ever. most cool rpers i've met are average or less average writers eg. fragments, rambling, grammur everywhere but content-wise they're fun and natural. faster too. i tend to avoid people who are from skull's example. i definitely stillcome up with a plot with them and it's up to them if they want to push through. i don't have high expectations though. idc how good they write. if they're not interested, i'm not.

i get thoughthat some people might not just be in the plotting department. i really prefer if we talk about it carefully as a guide. it's not scripting the ehole thread or anything but so your thoughts flow the way you mean it. most htreads die becuSe people dont know whatelse to right or turned the thread to a terribad development. i find plotting to be useful and gets you in sync with your rp partner

(on ipad yes)

[gimmick]

I'm with Bubbles. I'm an awful plotter in terms of coming up with ideas or thinking of how to reply to a post on a plot page (when I make one). Granted, most of the posts I get are "oh-they-should-meet-who-cares-how" types.


/utterly useless post

[THE LEVIATHAN]

Rarely do I use plot pages (I haven't roleplayed in a while), but I almost always do it so that I can plot with other people. It's rare that I join a site alone because I enjoy the comfort of my friends and knowing that even if no one likes my character, they'll like them and I won't be alone. To stop myself from only plotting within my small circle of friends - it's fine to enjoy your friends, but I always found it kinda annoying when people refuse to socialize with people outside of that circle - I make plot pages.

Problem is that I find myself trying to find a decent plot page and I spend forever finding one and end up forgetting why the hell I was making one in the first place.

I don't like it when people want to plot with my character for an obscure reason. I don't always play super nice guy characters, so I don't like it when my character is notorious for being a thief and a douchebag and someone says, "Oh yeah, they should be friends!"

Friends? More like my character pushing your character around. I will politely refuse a plot that, I feel, doesn't accurately match up with my character. I'm not going to change my character's traits so that he's "easier" to plot with; that's not fair to me as his writer.

I have replied to plot pages w/o making one, but I generally tell people to just pm me (or if we're good friends, skype me). In fact, I just do most of my plotting through PMs unless one of my friends has a plot page.

I kinda avoid plot pages lately because I am shy when it comes down to roleplaying with people I don't know and at the end of the day, I know I'll still have fun roleplaying with my boyfriend without worrying about my anxiety kicking in when I'm roleplaying with a new person - since I tend to panic about dumb things like if they'll enjoy my post, if they like the template, if my post is too long/short, etc. I'm trying to break out of this habit though.

Aesthetics don't really matter to me. Just don't be a douchebag.

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[HIMA]

i'd had people shoot down my plot ideas, and normally i take it pretty well. usually people have very valid reasons why they can't accept it and why it's a problem, and that's okay. they're usually nice about it too, so yeah. what i don't like is when it feels like a personal attack, but well, people are people and people are different. still, i'd be able to get over it.

tbh i consider plots for all my characters in relation to someone else's, if i really like the character. however they have to make sense, like, maybe they're vastly different in age / there's no reason for them to meet / no chemistry, i don't bother b/c i know the thread will end up draggy and boring and i won't want to reply. so yeah, if someone's character suits one of more of my own characters, i'll plot for both of them. but only one, i'll plot for that one. makes sense to me? idk. (it's not as if i plot a lot anyway sighs, i get too bored of plotting)

sadly, yes, aesthetics matter to every aspect of my life sadly sadly sadly. however, it's like how katya said. only bad templates make me unhappy. no template, or a good template are both cool with me. but really, i think templates don't matter that much because whether or not i actually post in someone else's plot page is something altogether. i think i'd only do that if i can't get hold of them on skype, or i'm very interested in their character in relation to my own and believe them to have the potential to have great plots!

i always make plot pages regardless whether or not i actually get plots which is sad because i get really disappointed when i don't get much, even though i don't actively plot. i know, i'm terrible.

i uh, wouldn't really do that... although i'm usually terribly reclusive with threads and i just thread with people i know oops.

oops wall of text oops sorry

[GARDEN]

I'm on the same bandwagon as others. I don't plot a lot with people mostly because I only post in plot pages when I get ideas for something. I think it's perfectly fine to not have a plot page of your own, though!

Since I haven't been awake for 24 hours now, I'll actually... respond to this thread...

I've had it happen once or twice and for me, it's a deep sting. I am terrified of having my plots rejected which is just another reason I don't plot a lot u__u People are always really nice about it, though, and usually give alternate suggestions!

I make plot pages for all my characters 'cuz they're all precious individuals who deserve their own page yes

Aesthetics matter a little to me. I'd really rather people just at least justify or blockquote their post because I think it looks better. No need for fancy templates, just put a wee bit of effort into the style? I don't know if it would affect me plotting with someone or not though because I've never had that issue with people not having a template? It also depends on their character.

I can deal with bad writing unless it's flat out incomprehensible but I feel absolute terror when someone I really don't like OOC or who I hate the character of plots with me. I'm just like "wat do i do" cuz i'm too nice/passive to be like i hate your character go away

/horrible person

[milachan ★]

I'm guilty of simplish plots because I always feel like I'm too forward when I have like crazy mad ideas. But people saying that they find that frustrating (I do tend to check and see if the characters would fit and try to think of how they'd have met and get along/not get along) makes me think maybe if I throw my more elaborate ideas out there then I might get some interesting plotsies happening.

I'm not so bad with people I know because I'm like "they know I have insanity with plots" but new people I tend to err on the side of caution simply because I don't want them to think I'm a psychopath who enjoys the pain of her characters. I'm totally not, I swear.. okay maybe a little.

>> This thread has been enlightening and I love you all.

[Egao, Egao Everywhere]

Jun 28, 2013 0:47:28 GMT -8 milachan ★ said:

I tend to err on the side of caution simply because I don't want them to think I'm a psychopath who enjoys the pain of her characters. I'm totally not, I swear.. okay maybe a little.

are you telling me not all rpers are secret psychopaths