[Egao, Egao Everywhere]

Apr 10, 2014 13:48:02 GMT -8 Siren said:

I like to think of them as separate entities rather than extended branches of myself, and so while sharing a quirk or personality trait with one of my characters is no big deal, the thought of making a self-insert makes me somewhat uncomfortable. It's like you're trying to flatten yourself out, and that's just... idk, it's just really bizarre to me, and I can't really wrap my head around it. So, I try to make my characters as distant from me and each other as possible.

I would say I agree to this and I think I do think this way too, but it's usually after the creation process that I realize how much there is me in my character. It even happens with canon characters who I think I absolutely have no similarity with. I don't think it means my character is a self-insert all along, because having something you can relate to with your character is, to me, what makes effective rping. It's usually the same with writing and acting too.

I think self-inserts are cool. The only time they make me uncomfortable is when there's too much projection of it. I kind of still consider self-inserts as characters. It depends on what the rper exactly had in mind making them.

[Kodiak]

I guess I play self inserts, at least that's what my mind is trying to convince me, I usually try to at least put in one trait of me into a character to make it easier to write for, or at least a trait I wish I had, and that's pretty much it. I suck lol

[redox-kun]

aren't self inserts what everyone does

tbh i enjoy ocs a lot more now since they say something about me that i don't actively acknowledge a lot? like for the longest time i was in denial about being an immigrant trash kid and rping stefan really helped me own up to that shit. well it's more like i start off with original concepts but then they SLOWLY EVOLVE into immigrant trash kids because immigrant trash game is 2 strong for me

but yea i think all my characters turn into immigrant trash to some degree. if i really care about that character i'll probably also give them some troubled shtick about their names bc im a piece of shit

[Siren]

Apr 11, 2014 6:41:35 GMT -8 Egao, Egao Everywhere said:

Apr 10, 2014 13:48:02 GMT -8 Siren said:

I like to think of them as separate entities rather than extended branches of myself, and so while sharing a quirk or personality trait with one of my characters is no big deal, the thought of making a self-insert makes me somewhat uncomfortable. It's like you're trying to flatten yourself out, and that's just... idk, it's just really bizarre to me, and I can't really wrap my head around it. So, I try to make my characters as distant from me and each other as possible.

I would say I agree to this and I think I do think this way too, but it's usually after the creation process that I realize how much there is me in my character. It even happens with canon characters who I think I absolutely have no similarity with. I don't think it means my character is a self-insert all along, because having something you can relate to with your character is, to me, what makes effective rping. It's usually the same with writing and acting too.

I think self-inserts are cool. The only time they make me uncomfortable is when there's too much projection of it. I kind of still consider self-inserts as characters. It depends on what the rper exactly had in mind making them.

I completely agree with what you're saying, and that's what I was more or less attempting to convey i kinda suck at explaining myself, yeah, sorry. Going back to earlier in my post, I do believe that there are common links between every person and their character, regardless of how small or big this similarity is. But, I don't think this is necessarily self-insertion? My personal definition of self-insertion is when a character is a literal representation of the person playing said, from appearance to history and so on.

Having too much of yourself in a character just completely eerie to me, although I've had bad experiences with self-inserts in the past, so I may be biased about this.

But, yeah. I think there's nothing wrong with having several similarities with your characters, but I don't consider that self-insertion at all. And, if it makes a person role play more effectively, then I say go for it. I personally like to explore the psyche of different characters, so I try to distance them as far as I possibly can. It might not mean that they're 100% different from myself, but it makes it changes things up and gives me something new to experiment with.

[gimmick]

All my characters end up kinda sarcastic

Even in RP I can't help coming up with snide remarks

[Egao, Egao Everywhere]

Siren no it's okay xD I understood what you mean. I wasn't trying to argue about self-insertion with your meaning or w/e. It just came to my mind since you said you try to distance yourself from your character, and I do that too. But then I find out I'm not as distant from my character as I thought.

I know self-inserts have traumatized people. I wasn't trying to defend the whole self-insert idea. It just so happened that I'm very neutral about it because it really depends on the rper.

edit: well I don't know about redox-kun but I wasn't taking offense or anything about what you said. I personally don't like self-inserts. There's nothing bad about them, but it's such that they usually end up as bad characters to me.

[redox-kun]

I wasn't...taking offense at what you said either lol

it was a general observation

wait am I supposed to be offended or is someone else supposed to be??? I'm confused

[Siren]

Egao, Egao Everywhere and redox-kun, I was just trying to clarify myself since I wasn't sure if our definitions of self-insertion were the same and I think I misread it and took it out of context. LOL

But yeah, self-inserts have left a sour impression on me, although I have to admit it's an interesting concept trying to rp a self-insert. Lots of psychoanalysis on yourself and whatnot. I'm not sure if a person would be able to accurately portray themselves, though, so that's something to think about as well.