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Post by invictus on Jul 18, 2014 8:22:24 GMT -8
SO FOR SRS INTEREST CHECK FOR THE IDEA BROUGHT UP BY WOLF STEAMPUNK AU OF THE POTTER VERSE? NEVER Wolf gimmicktagging the people i know are interested, but everyone's invited to reply!
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Post by NEVER on Jul 18, 2014 8:40:28 GMT -8
i know we said steampunk and there needs to be a bit of clarification on that. we can assume that wizards/the wizarding world/hogwarts and the like progress....slower than society. it's probably simply because there's no need to use gadgets like muggles, as they have magic to perform the same tasks. but if a site like this were to be set in NYC... would wizards be stuck in the 1800s? probably not- as new york is a very modern place. and much less isolated than the castle that was hogwarts.
so of course in a situation like this, NYC wizards would have to adapt quicker than their british cousins. i'd imagine they'd have to update quite often to fit in with the muggles. it's quite cool to think that the wizarding society would be "steampunk," while the muggle/mundane society would be a bit more modernized. as we know from the HP series, hogwarts and the british wizards were significantly less modern than london, which iirc was visited in the last book. sure, there are places that are modern to fit in- but i don't think there was any hint of modernization in the books.
so i imagine it's like a ratio. NYC is a very modern place, and therefore the wizards would have to be modern too. my understanding is that "steampunk" in this case, really applies to the wizards.
to clarify what the site would be about- although i'd imagine there'd have to be some sort of dark arts plot, i think it'd be better if it was slightly more casual than HP the series was. this brings me to another point: the term "AU." imo, AU doesn't have to stay true to what the words actually mean. i think it's better to specify that the HP events (with voldemort and such) did happen. but because this site would be set in NY, it wouldn't be spoken of very much. i like to imagine this is years and years and years forward, to the point where many of the HP bloodlines have been lost among the ruckus. having a sense of "the world has been peaceful since _____" helps greatly with a site.
back to what the site is about, and how casual i personally think it should be. what really interests me about the site is showing how different the british wizards are from the americans. i have this image in my head of twenty year old wizards, living in manhattan, playing pranks on poor old muggles, and some even defending them from terrible accidents. and adding to said image is an academy.
i also have an image in my head of american wizards being...a newer thing, if that makes sense. wizardry started in europe, and eventually came to america. so these wizards haven't been around for quiiite as long. i can see a newer academy with different sorts of classes and different architecture and traditions.
now, you may ask how we keep the books as the inspiration here. just as in RL, people in separate countries do select things differently. things like the sorting hat, and the wand searching and whatever would be done in america too, i'm sure, just in different ways. who knows how, we'd have to figure that out.
yeah but i think that'd be my central idea of what a site like this could be about.
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Post by Kuroya on Jul 18, 2014 8:41:49 GMT -8
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SETTING OR THE BASE OR WHATNOT.
As long as it is animanga and the members/staff are not class-a douches, I am in.
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Post by NEVER on Jul 18, 2014 8:47:34 GMT -8
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SETTING OR THE BASE OR WHATNOT.
As long as it is animanga and the members/staff are not class-a douches, I am in.
that's good! <3 ur the besssst
but jsyk, with such a separate idea from the books, the settings and bases are very important things to cover, it's probably gonna take a lot of thinking/dedication to come up with the american lore and etc. i think with a site like this, the setting and the base are very important, otherwise the site won't be as fun. making up some cool artifacts and finding a way for the setting to work with the HP series and it's cool attributes is an essential thing.
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Post by Kuroya on Jul 18, 2014 8:52:53 GMT -8
You could always just make it sort of... *taps lip* Oh gosh, how do I explain it? Sort of... based off the concept mentioned in the fourth book that there are other schools, only maybe make it like... a boarding school just outside one of the major cities? I'm not saying Las Vegas... but come on, with all the corny stage magic, it's got to be easy for real wizards to hide *brick'd*
Or you could base it around a smaller town that's made up for added flexibility, but you'd run the risk of making it too much like the books, as well as take out the more steampunk/gang idea of it.
Or add in a fun time warp thing where when you go through a certain arch or something, you're taken back in time and attend the school. IDK. I'm probably coming up with dumb ideas now lmao.
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Post by gimmick on Jul 18, 2014 10:01:29 GMT -8
Would it have to be a boarding school in the traditional sense? There could be like a large-scale college town sort of thing situated somewhere within NY the way Diagon Alley was just sitting in the middle of London...but a lot bigger. Parts of it could even extend underground a la Ministry of Magic for more room, and that could be where the steampunk aspects are most prevalent. A mini-city instead of a boarding school would allow for more than just students living there, and it'd work with the student(and maybe non-student) gangs (this is if we're going with what I'd posted in the sites thread and forgoing official sorting for that). Families can choose to live either below or above ground or out in the regular muggle city parts.
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Post by harusame!! on Jul 18, 2014 10:08:50 GMT -8
What if the school was in the sky, like on some sort of steampunk island setting? And instead of making the island or school float in the sky with magic, it could be some sort of steampunky mechanical system? It would be pretty cool.
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Post by NEVER on Jul 18, 2014 11:03:42 GMT -8
i was thinking maybe under the academy was under the hudson river tbh with a sports dome with quidditch and stuff. explanation could be that spell that hermione used to make her bag never ending in deathly hallows- they did it with the river. the "bottom" is the top of their school.
i LOVE the floating island idea, along with the hidden town idea. an floating island school would be REALLY cool especially because flying cars.
the hidden town, i think, would be cooler as just that: a town. the "fifth borough" of NYC. the academy could be located elsewhere.
gimmick harusame!!
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Post by darth vader on Jul 18, 2014 11:25:02 GMT -8
i was thinking maybe under the academy was under the hudson river tbh with a sports dome with quidditch and stuff. explanation could be that spell that hermione used to make her bag never ending in deathly hallows- they did it with the river. the "bottom" is the top of their school.
i LOVE the floating island idea, along with the hidden town idea. an floating island school would be REALLY cool especially because flying cars.
the hidden town, i think, would be cooler as just that: a town. the "fifth borough" of NYC. the academy could be located elsewhere.
gimmick harusame!!
wouldn't it be the sixth borough i mean i know staten island doesn't count but still
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Post by NEVER on Jul 18, 2014 11:54:49 GMT -8
staten island gtfo
#sorrynotsorry #longhairdon'tcare
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Post by MASQUE on Jul 18, 2014 12:38:32 GMT -8
NEVER gimmick harusame!! invictusFunnily enough I was already beginning work on a gang AU HP-verse site, but just making the houses into gangs rather then houses, but, if y'all wanted, grab this and tweak those concepts into the site as well? So everyone can make a gang but there are 4 major ones that we can name and lore up and point out their Hogwarts equivalent. Unfortunately, I would be pretty crap at the setting because I'm Canadian and utterly stupid about America /woo. But Lores and things, that I could do no problem. So yeah, figured this would be neat. (sneakily tags Dew as well because dew wanted a gang hp site)
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Post by Dew on Jul 18, 2014 14:34:28 GMT -8
HUFFLEPUFF GANG WILL BEAT ALL Y'ALL. GO BADGERS. BADGERS RULE. SCREE SCREE, YA WIZARDS AND WITCHES /shotshot /dead I want in on this ewe -cling sot MASQUE-
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Post by NEVER on Jul 18, 2014 16:51:08 GMT -8
MASQUE i honestly think the gang idea is p cool, but personally i'd rather stay true to the nyc setting + academy. i think gangs are cooler as a side plot- the "wizard mafia," as i said in the other thread. the idea of having members create gangs is really cool, but i think the main focus for this particular site would be: nyc + modern + steampunk wizards.
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Post by harusame!! on Jul 18, 2014 17:36:06 GMT -8
I agree about the main focus being modern day wizarding school and stuff with gangs as a sort of side thing. But, I think an important thing to discuss would be the lore. If the setting is New York and it's Post Voldemort's "fiesta", where does the school got in? Is it new or was it established in that time? Maybe there are important historical figures or a stature of Harry or something. Plus I think the classes for school and such should be slightly modernized. I dunno how but they should lol
#imtotallyreadytohelp.
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Post by gimmick on Jul 18, 2014 18:15:19 GMT -8
Regarding lore, I like Caedmon's suggestion of the Voldy thing being known, but not really that prevalent. It doesn't have to be that distant in the future though, since I never really got the impression that he had much influence outside of Europe anyway?
It's pretty unlikely there were absolutely no traces of a wizarding society in the US for so long. Maybe at least a century or so for the town, and fit the school somewhere in that window?
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